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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.

for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.

any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.

raymond frantz

@ herelam60 you are welcome dear friend

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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.

for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.

any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.

In the twelfth chapter of Revelation, John describes a cosmic conflict in which Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven and hurled down to earth. The timing of this event aligns with the midpoint of the tribulation, a period of unprecedented turmoil and divine judgment. When Satan arrives on earth, it is not in secret. Revelation warns, “Woe to the inhabitants of the earth,” for the devil has come down in great wrath, knowing that his time is short.

Now imagine the impact of such a moment on a world already teetering on the edge of spiritual confusion. If Satan and his fallen host descend in visible, undeniable glory, performing miracles, proclaiming wisdom, and presenting themselves as ancient creators or advanced beings from beyond, the global reaction would be seismic. Religions would be forced to confront what appears to be undeniable supernatural proof. Traditional doctrines would crumble under the weight of this new “reality.” Holy books would be reinterpreted, prophecies reexamined, and spiritual leaders would be pressured—or eager—to adapt. What would emerge from this upheaval is not atheism, but a new faith, one that unites humanity under a common spiritual banner.

This is where Babylon the Great rises.

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WT June '25: Why Can't We Turn Studies Into Baptisms?

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/t_mpdwsqpy0?si=okf4bsfsqfed0szp.

study article 27 under the title :"help bible students to take a stand for the truth" paragraph 1 *did you have reservations about becoming one of jehovah’s witnesses?

perhaps you were afraid that your workmates, friends, or family would turn against you.

raymond frantz

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WT June '25: Why Can't We Turn Studies Into Baptisms?

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/t_mpdwsqpy0?si=okf4bsfsqfed0szp.

study article 27 under the title :"help bible students to take a stand for the truth" paragraph 1 *did you have reservations about becoming one of jehovah’s witnesses?

perhaps you were afraid that your workmates, friends, or family would turn against you.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/t_MPDwSqpY0?si=Okf4BsfSqfed0SZP

Study article 27 under the title :"Help Bible Students to Take a Stand for the Truth" paragraph 1
*DID you have reservations about becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses? Perhaps you were afraid that your workmates, friends, or family would turn against you. Or maybe you felt that you would never be able to live up to God’s standards. If so, you can empathize with Bible students who seem reluctant to take a stand for the truth.*
Ah yes, the ever-persistent question in Watchtower literature: why, oh why, are so many Bible studies not turning into baptisms? Surely it must be that people are just riddled with fear, self-doubt, and personal inadequacy. They're simply intimidated by the high standards of God's organization, right? Or maybe they’re afraid their families will shun them for choosing “the truth.” That must be it—because there’s *no way* it could have anything to do with people doing their own research, asking legitimate questions, and discovering some rather uncomfortable truths about the organization itself. No, no. That would be far too rational.
Let’s break this down. According to this paragraph, the only plausible explanation for why people might be dragging their feet is that they’re scared or insecure. That’s it. No mention of other possibilities. None. Apparently, the thought that someone might look into the organization objectively and *decide against joining* simply doesn’t compute. It's not even a hypothetical worth mentioning. Because let’s be honest—once you've had a few “Bible studies” and heard the good news about paradise and pandas, why wouldn’t you want to jump into a pool and sign your spiritual life away?
Except here’s the thing: we live in 2025 now, and people aren’t living in a vacuum anymore. You can’t hand someone a publication like “What Does the Bible Really Teach?” and expect them not to also Google, “Are Jehovah’s Witnesses a cult?” Spoiler alert: that search leads to some very different answers than the ones in *The Watchtower*.
And that’s the real issue, isn’t it? The organization still seems to be operating as if we’re in the 1950s, a time when people didn’t have the resources to fact-check what they were being told. Back then, you could control the flow of information. If someone had a question about 1914, or the blood doctrine, or the dozens of failed Armageddon predictions, they’d be sent to their local elder for a vague explanation and maybe a couple of cherry-picked scriptures. But today, within seconds, you can read experiences from former Witnesses, check quotes from old Watchtower publications, and even find court documents and UN affiliations that the average Witness probably has never heard of—*and definitely won’t hear about during their study.*
But what really seals the deal for a lot of people? It’s not just the questionable teachings. It’s the way the organization reacts when someone asks a tough question. You’d think that an organization that claims to have “the truth” would be absolutely thrilled to engage in meaningful, respectful Bible discussion. You’d imagine they’d welcome the opportunity to explain their beliefs using scripture, logic, and historical context. But in reality? Ask a probing question—say, “Why did the organization flip-flop on the generation teaching so many times?”—and watch how quickly things get awkward. Or hostile. Or both.
Rather than engaging, Witnesses are trained to view such questions as dangerous, even spiritually deadly. You're not “just curious” or trying to understand—nope, you're being “critical,” “prideful,” or under the influence of “apostate thinking.” You might even get told to stop asking those questions altogether. Because let’s face it: the answers, if they even exist, aren’t exactly faith-strengthening.
So is it really that surprising that many Bible students decide to tap out before baptism? It’s not a lack of courage. It’s not fear of rejection. It’s not some spiritual inferiority complex. It's that they can smell the red flags from a mile away—and unlike the generations before them, they have the tools to confirm what they’re feeling.
And then there’s the whole issue of commitment. Baptism in the Jehovah’s Witnesses isn’t just a symbolic gesture. It’s a legal, spiritual, and social contract that comes with massive consequences. Once you’re in, you’re *in*. If you ever decide to leave or disagree with the organization, you're not just walking away from a set of beliefs—you’re potentially walking away from your entire community, your family, and every social connection you’ve made within the group. You don’t “disagree with the elders.” You “become spiritually weak.” You don’t “have doubts.” You “fall under Satan’s influence.” And if you get disfellowshipped, you’re dead to everyone still in.
So again, maybe—*just maybe*—Bible students aren’t “reluctant” because they fear they won’t measure up to God’s standards. Maybe they’re just observant enough to recognize when they’re being asked to join a system that punishes independent thought, discourages questions, and enforces conformity through emotional blackmail.
The irony is, the paragraph wants you to “empathize” with these poor, trembling students. But it offers no real empathy itself. No attempt to validate legitimate concerns. No encouragement to dig deeper or explore their doubts. Just a blanket assumption: they’re scared, they’re weak, and they need to muster the courage to take “a stand for the truth.”
But what if “the truth” they’re being asked to stand for doesn’t hold up under scrutiny? What if, after all the meetings, study sessions, and convention videos, someone simply realizes that they’re being fed a highly curated, inflexible worldview that doesn’t tolerate any critical analysis? Is that fear? Or is it just common sense?
If the organization really wants to see higher conversion rates, maybe it should start with a little honesty. Acknowledge that people today can—and will—do their research. Create an environment where questions are welcomed, not punished. Stop framing any hesitation as a sign of weakness and instead consider that maybe, just maybe, people are walking away *because they’re thinking clearly.*
Until then, no amount of emotional appeals, guilt-tripping, or glossy publications is going to convince the average critical thinker to go for that baptism. Not when they’ve seen behind the curtain. Not when they know what’s really at stake.
So next time you hear that someone didn’t go through with baptism, don’t assume they were “afraid of persecution” or “didn’t feel worthy.” Maybe they just asked the wrong question—and got the kind of answer that made everything suddenly, painfully clear.

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WT June 2025: We Are Not Blind We Just Don't Know

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/7xumqjq3zfc?si=ivcg96t4dtgze4ft.

so this is from the brand new watchtower study edition of june 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title: modestly accept what you do not know, a let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “read matthew 24:36. we do not know when the end of this system of things will come.

even jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ he later told the apostles that jehovah, who is the great timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority.

raymond frantz

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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.

for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.

any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.

raymond frantz

It sure looks like Babylon the Great will become a thing when all major religions will have to explain soon in a unified way the Arrival of the fallen ones

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WT June 2025: We Are Not Blind We Just Don't Know

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/7xumqjq3zfc?si=ivcg96t4dtgze4ft.

so this is from the brand new watchtower study edition of june 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title: modestly accept what you do not know, a let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “read matthew 24:36. we do not know when the end of this system of things will come.

even jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ he later told the apostles that jehovah, who is the great timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/7XUMqjQ3ZFc?si=ivCG96T4dTgZE4Ft

So this is from the brand new
Watchtower Study Edition of June 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title:
Modestly Accept What You Do Not Know, a
Let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “Read Matthew 24:36. We do not know when the end of this system of things will come. Even Jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ He later told the apostles that Jehovah, who is the Great Timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority. (Acts 1:6, 7) Jehovah has scheduled the time for the end of this system, but we are not in a position to figure out precisely when that will be.”
“Because we do not know when the end will come, how might we be affected? In view of what Jesus said, we do not know how long we will have to wait until the end comes. As a result, we might become impatient or discouraged, especially if we have already been waiting for some time for Jehovah’s day. Or we might find it hard to endure ridicule from family members or others. (2 Pet. 3:3, 4) It is possible to feel that if we knew the exact day that the end would come, we would be more patient and we would be able to endure ridicule more easily.”

It is similar to a divine answering machine. “Thank you for your interest in the end of the world. Jehovah is currently unavailable. Timing is in His own jurisdiction. Please remain faithful and try your call again later.”
Let’s take a moment to appreciate the poetic irony here. We’re now being told—*again*—that **Jehovah is the Great Timekeeper**, which is adorable considering this organization has spent over a century fumbling with broken clocks. From 1874 to 1914, from 1925 to 1975, from the infamous “generation that will not pass away” to whatever version we’re pretending not to remember today, their timing has been… let’s say, *creatively inaccurate*.
Now they’ve downgraded their forecast from “We know!” to “Nobody knows—and that’s a good thing!” How convenient. If you can’t give people an ETA, just rebrand your uncertainty as virtue.
And yes, we’re told Jesus himself didn’t know the day or hour (**Matthew 24:36**), which apparently absolves the Governing Body from ever having to know anything specific, despite their self-appointed status as Jehovah’s exclusive channel. If they know less now than they did in 1975, are we to believe that spiritual “light” works in reverse?
Then comes the real jewel: **“Jehovah… keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction.’”** This phrase has become Watchtower code for “Don’t ask us. We haven’t got a clue.” It sounds like a divine bureaucratic office, where prophecies are stamped and filed away for later delivery—but only to the back office, not the reception desk. “Yes, Armageddon is scheduled, but it’s above your pay grade. Just keep distributing literature, please.”
Now, imagine going to a doctor who tells you: "Well, we don’t know when the treatment will work. Or what the outcome will be. Actually, we don’t even know what stage your illness is in. But trust me—your healing is close. In the meantime, take these magazines, knock on doors, and keep showing up for appointments. Just don’t expect test results."
That doctor would be sued for malpractice. But when the Watchtower says the same thing spiritually, it’s praised as “modesty.”
And just to keep things emotionally manipulative, they acknowledge the psychological fallout: “We might become impatient or discouraged... we might find it hard to endure ridicule... we would be more patient if we knew the exact day...”
You don’t say? Perhaps that’s because being in a state of chronic, unresolved spiritual suspense is not actually sustainable. People eventually tire of being told “soon” for decades while the world continues spinning and the Governing Body continues revising its timelines in spiritual white-out.
But instead of taking responsibility for that fatigue, they turn it back on *you*. If you’re discouraged, it’s not because you’ve been fed a century of failed expectations—it’s because you don’t trust Jehovah enough. See how that works?
Even more audacious is their implication that **knowing the exact date would somehow be too easy**. As if clarity is cheating, and uncertainty is the noble path. “If we knew when the end would come, we’d be more patient,” they say—as if that’s a problem. Isn’t that *exactly* what Jesus did for his followers in Matthew 24 and 25? Gave them signs, timelines, illustrations to prepare? But no—here, blind faith is repackaged as spiritual discipline.
Meanwhile, we have **Matthew 15:14 (NWT)** reminding us with chilling clarity:
> *“Let them be. Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”*
And the Governing Body wants to guide you—confidently, cheerfully, and perpetually—straight toward that pit, while proudly declaring they can’t see the path ahead. But don’t worry, they’ve got new literature for you in the meantime. You just have to believe harder.
So what’s the takeaway here? The end is definitely coming—*eventually*. Jehovah knows when, but He’s not telling. Jesus didn’t know, so the Governing Body definitely can’t. Your discouragement is valid, but still your fault. Just keep going. Trust the Great Timekeeper… even though His alarm clock apparently runs on celestial mystery.
Meanwhile, the Watchtower keeps resetting the countdown and handing out brochures like it's spiritual candy. All the while, millions sit in spiritual waiting rooms, hoping that someday, someone will actually call their name and say, “It’s time.”
But spoiler alert: if the last hundred years are anything to go by, that call may not come until after the waiting room closes.

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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.

for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.

any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/VPws6nCQPLA?si=DQNf7-huPFr4PDtA

For decades, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been banging on about Babylon the Great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse. Any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion. And yet… here we are. Churches are still standing, mosques and temples are packed, and religion is still thriving in large swathes of the world.

So, what do you do when your long-anticipated prophecy isn’t quite unfolding as expected? Well, if you're the Watchtower Society, you simply tweak the narrative. Again. And again.

At the latest annual meeting, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses unveiled yet another “adjustment” (their favourite euphemism for backtracking). This time, it’s all about Babylon the Great, and it’s a pretty big U-turn. Let’s break it down into three key changes.

Change 1: Babylon the Great Is *Not* Actually Falling (At Least, Not Yet)

For years, Jehovah’s Witnesses confidently declared that Babylon the Great was in a terminal decline. Europe’s churches were emptier than a pub on Christmas morning, faith was supposedly on the way out, and this was solid proof that Jehovah was dismantling false religion in preparation for the Great Tribulation.

Except, as it turns out, religion isn’t exactly gasping its last breath worldwide. While Europe might be swapping Sunday service for Sunday brunch, Africa, South America, and large parts of Asia are still very much devoted to their faiths. Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism are still experiencing growth in many regions, and Jehovah’s Witnesses have been forced to acknowledge this inconvenient reality.

So, rather than admit their prediction was a bit premature, they’ve decided that, actually, Babylon the Great is *gradually* losing support, but it's not quite at the collapsing stage yet. The waters, they now say, are only *drying up* rather than disappearing entirely. Ah, yes—the classic "technically, we weren’t *wrong*” manoeuvre.

Change 2: The Great Tribulation No Longer Starts with Babylon’s Fall

Here’s another one they’ve quietly reshuffled. For decades, Witnesses were taught that the Great Tribulation—the beginning of the end of the world—would be triggered by governments suddenly turning on religion and wiping out all false faiths. Babylon the Great would be obliterated, and Jehovah’s Witnesses, as the only true faith, would emerge untouched, finally getting their *I told you so* moment.

Well, not anymore. According to the latest interpretation, the Great Tribulation actually starts with something quite different: nations handing over their power to the United Nations. Yes, the very same UN that Jehovah’s Witnesses have been demonising for decades as part of Satan’s world order is now, apparently, fulfilling God’s plan.

This shift is significant. Instead of expecting an immediate, dramatic collapse of religion, Witnesses are now being told to look for political changes instead. It’s a convenient way to move the goalposts—rather than having to explain why Babylon the Great is still alive and well, they can now focus on political shifts that may or may not happen in the near future.

Essentially, they've gone from “Religion is about to be wiped out” to “Actually, let’s keep an eye on the UN instead.” And, conveniently, this new timeline keeps the sense of urgency alive without requiring them to acknowledge that their previous predictions didn’t quite pan out.

Change 3: A Softer Stance Towards Other Religions

Perhaps the most surprising shift of all is the *tone* of this new understanding. Historically, Jehovah’s Witnesses have had no qualms about calling other religions part of a corrupt, satanic system destined for destruction. They proudly distanced themselves from *Christendom*, rejected interfaith cooperation, and made it clear that all other faiths were doomed.

But now? The message is getting noticeably softer. Rather than talking about the imminent destruction of all other religions, they’re subtly shifting the focus towards political changes. Could this be a strategic move to appear more respectable and mainstream? It certainly seems that way.

Let’s not forget that Jehovah’s Witnesses operate as registered charities in countries like the UK and Australia. If they go around gleefully predicting the downfall of every other religion, it doesn’t exactly help their reputation when governments review their charitable status. By softening their stance, they can present themselves as a peaceful, law-abiding group rather than a fringe movement obsessed with Armageddon.

This shift could also make life easier for Witnesses in countries where they’re viewed with suspicion. France, Spain, and Norway, for instance, have taken a harder stance against what they consider to be extreme religious groups. If the Watchtower wants to maintain influence in these regions, appearing less antagonistic towards other faiths is a smart move.

And let’s be honest—publicly rooting for the collapse of all other religions while simultaneously claiming tax-exempt charity status was always going to be a tough sell.

The Big Picture: A Strategic Survival Move?

So, what’s really going on here? Is this another case of “new light” (aka “Oops, we need to rethink that one”), or is there something more strategic at play?

One thing is certain: the Watchtower is losing members. Their growth has slowed dramatically, Kingdom Halls are being sold, and internal reports suggest they’re struggling to retain young people. If you’re an organisation watching your influence wane, you have two choices: double down on the old narrative or pivot to something more sustainable.

By shifting away from the “Babylon is about to collapse” rhetoric and focusing on the UN, they buy themselves time. If churches are still standing strong in 10 years, no problem—they can just say the political scene hasn’t quite aligned yet.

At the same time, toning down their hostility towards other religions makes them more palatable as a charity and reduces their risk of being classified as an extremist group. It’s a classic PR move: soften the message, stay relevant, and ensure the money keeps flowing.

Final Thought: Who’s Actually in Decline Here?

For decades, Jehovah’s Witnesses have warned the world that religion is on the verge of collapse. But if you look at the numbers, it’s actually the *Watchtower* that seems to be in trouble. Their once-unquestioned authority is being challenged, their membership is stagnating, and now they’re having to reframe their prophecies to keep their followers engaged.

So, maybe Babylon the Great *isn’t* the one falling after all. Maybe it’s the Watchtower. And in this religious survival game, they seem to have realised that playing nice might just be their best chance at staying afloat.

Not quite the grand Armageddon they promised, is it?

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Memorial Talk Training Video 2025 - Part 1

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/4upzvonzg10?si=1bdvv6qzcuj2fo6s.

oh, the joys of being one of jehovah’s witnesses, where you get to learn that heaven is a vip lounge for exactly 144,000 people—and sorry, everyone else, you're stuck in the “earth forever” section.

yep, you get to mow grass in paradise while the chosen few float around in immortal glory.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/4UpZVoNZG10?si=1BdVV6qZCUj2fO6S

Oh, the joys of being one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, where you get to learn that heaven is a VIP lounge for exactly 144,000 people—and sorry, everyone else, you're stuck in the “earth forever” section. Yep, you get to mow grass in paradise while the chosen few float around in immortal glory. Sounds fair, right? Because clearly, God is running a limited-entry club in heaven, complete with a divine bouncer counting heads at the door.Let’s break this down. So, the idea is that *only* 144,000 people get to go to heaven, because Revelation mentions that number. And that’s it, apparently. Context? Who needs it. Never mind the rest of Scripture, just grab that number and build a whole theology on it. But here’s the kicker—**1 Corinthians 15:22-23** throws a big wrench into this. Paul writes: *“For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.”* Wait, what? ALL who belong to Christ? Not “some,” not “just the elite 144,000,” but ALL. That’s weird, it’s almost like Paul didn’t get the memo about this exclusive heaven policy.

But it gets better. Paul goes on in **1 Corinthians 15:50-54** to explain that *flesh and blood can’t inherit the kingdom of God* and that *all* will be changed into immortal, spiritual beings. Not “some,” not “just the early birds who filled up the 144,000 quota,” but ALL faithful believers. So if *all* are changed into immortal, spiritual beings who can’t die, get sick, or stub their toe, where exactly are these people supposed to live? Oh, that’s right—heaven. Because that’s what a spiritual, immortal body is for.

Now, let’s talk about this *fabulous* idea of a “secondary class” who, I guess, should feel lucky just to be invited to the eternal party… but wait, they can’t come inside. They get to stand outside forever, while the 144,000 enjoy the real blessings. Because apparently, God loves playing favorites. Let’s just ignore **Romans 8:17**, which says, *“Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ.”* Co-heirs, meaning equal inheritance. Funny, it doesn’t say “heirs in two different tiers,” or “heirs, but some of you get leftovers.”

Heaven isn’t just a nice location upgrade. It’s a different existence. In heaven, you’re immortal, untouchable by time, hunger, or the weather. You don’t have to eat, sleep, or wear clothes unless you want to. You don’t break a sweat hauling around a physical body because—guess what—you don’t have one. Now let’s compare that to the so-called “paradise on earth,” where you’re still in a physical, fragile body that needs maintenance. Yeah, you get to prune trees, avoid bee stings, and hope you don’t trip over a rock. Clearly, such a *luxury*.

And here’s the real plot twist. The “great crowd” who allegedly stay on earth forever? Well, **Revelation 7:9** says they’re *standing before the throne of God*, which is—shocker—*in heaven*. Oops. So much for that whole “eternal earth” theory.

Now buckle up, because **Revelation 20:6** is about to make this even more awkward: *“Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.”* Wait, did that say “blessed and holy”? Reigning with Christ? Priests of God? Yeah, and that’s the *first* resurrection—*the better resurrection*. And where is Christ reigning from? Heaven, not someone’s backyard in paradise. So these people aren’t just alive—they’re ruling. They’re *with God*, not watching from Earth’s nosebleed section.

Let’s not forget, the Bible never says there’s a resurrection to earth after Christ returns where people just chill forever in Eden 2.0. That idea had to be *massaged* into the text by people desperate to make their doctrines fit. And of course, only the special 144,000 get the first-class ticket to heaven, while the “great crowd” is supposed to smile and accept a second-rate reward. Because who doesn’t love being a second-class citizen for eternity?

In conclusion, the whole 144,000-in-heaven and everyone-else-on-earth teaching? It’s not just wrong—it’s absurd. It’s a man-made fantasy that shrinks God’s promise and turns it into a divine caste system. The truth is simple: *all* who belong to Christ get the *better resurrection*, the one where you reign with Him in heaven—not just a chosen few with heavenly frequent flyer miles. Heaven isn’t reserved for a club of 144,000. It’s for *all* true believers. Don’t settle for less when God offers the best

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Will They Change the Memorial Talk This Year?

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/o5almnehew4?si=kdgrjgbiutjkvcxe.

i’m hoping the memorial talk will be different.

change the talk!

raymond frantz

Herelam I saw that yesterday on Redit,sone say that this is the same outline as the 2019 one, but I was in then I didn't hear them going on about born again.Is that a new thing?